the congress put the fiscal cliff in place so we would resolve that issue right now -- that is what we need to do. >> mark, do you want to take the first question? >> you raise a great point. this is where people's eyes glaze over -- these numbers can say whatever you want to say, but the notion, and this is where i would disagree with margaret's approach a little bet -- i do think there will be a relationship between revenues and entitlements. if we need to go bigger, we need to push all of those. there are some who say, the idea that the american people is going to buy into this notion of, ok, we will let these taxes go up. then we go through this magical witching hour -- 90% disapproval goes up to 99% disapproval. he will have general consensus that you have to get north of three -- you do this, you will get 500 in interest savings alone. they should not be as challenging as it is. one other thing -- the only thing i would disagree with bob a little, that is on the fact that i have been a huge advocate and continue to be a huge advocate of the tax reform debate. it is a critically i